Wednesday, February 9, 2011

Disney Day 8, Saturday 11/13

Our final morning in Orlando got an early start... or not so early, I guess. just typical. I fully believe that the condo next to ours had someone in there with an alarm clock set for 5:30 each morning and it woke the twins. They have always been light sleepers. And this was so precise each day, it makes sense something was set to wake them other than Mickey Excitement.

We finished packing the car, ate breakfast and left for the park by 8:00am. You can see how empty the park was on our way in. We had an even closer parking spot this morning. A minivan parked next to us and unloaded their crew. They had definitely all left for the park and Lew looked over to see the back door of the van wide open. He played parking lot hero and closed it for them. the funniest part was he knew it was the mother who was unloading little ones from that door - not like a teenager raced out and forgot to close it. Nope, Mom was the one with so much excitement she forgot!
Posed a couple times on our way to the ferry....
We didn't take the monorail today...
We headed for the ferry. It took only a few minutes more than the monorail, but it was usually more spacious. I didn't like how crowded the monorail was when we had to bring the stroller on. Of course, today, we had already dropped off our rental stroller and were all walking. We weren't worried, since we had only a few things planned before heading out. Making them tired before a 9 hour car trip is a good thing anyway. Although, they never ever sleep in the car unless it is pitch black outside. Even then, not a guarantee. They have never been those kind of kids who fall asleep as soon as they hit the car seats.
It was so empty - we were literally the first ones onto the ferry!
This woman wins my Best Disney Park Outfit award. We saw many non-sensible shoes and outfits throughout the week, but none as good as this.
This was the only day of the week that we got there before "Rope Drop" meaning the gates were not open yet. We arrived between 8:30 and 8:40 and the park didn't open until 9:00. This was the crowd there waiting for the rope to drop so they could enter... and run to Space Mountain, I guess.
The Mayor of Disney as well as many characters arrived by train to sing, dance and kick off the opening of the park.Once they dropped the rope so to speak, we all entered and headed towards our first 2 stops. As we walked down Main Street towards Cinderella's castle, Mary Poppins strolled alongside of us! She was holding the hands of 2 little girls, but she did say "good morning" to Gretchen, too.
It was 9:00 as we headed towards the castle. Lew was racing over to Big Thunder Mountain Railroad roller coaster to get 4 Fastpasses so he and Gretchen could ride the roller coaster 2 more times before our vacation ended. While he did that, the kids and I headed quickly to ride Dumbo one more time. When we got in line, the wait sign said "10 minute wait"...
... when we exited, the sign read "25 minute wait". Some of those other Rope Droppers were headed to Dumbo, not just Space Mountain! Lew actually arrived to see us end our ride, BTMRR fastpasses in hand. Then, I ran to the restroom while he and the kids boarded the carousel one more time. When I got back, the line had just closed. They had saved me a horse and everything. I would have had time to jump on if the lady would have let me in. Oh well. Because I was watching them, I got to snap this cute picture!
And here we have Science Daddy and Daughter eyeing the mechanism that makes the horses gallop and jump. You can just barely see Carl's head on the horse to their left.
OK, at 9:30 we headed over to start waiting for Tiana and Naveen. They were, after all, the whole reason we were here today. We wanted to be first in line for sure! And we were! Shortly after we arrived, a college aged guy showed up with his autograph book. He was darling and sweet, and somewhat challenged. He definitely did not have any issues approaching people and staying in their personal space. he wiggled his way right in between us and sat on the brick wall along with the kids and me. Actually, he and the kids had good conversations about meeting characters and how the autograph books were working out. He was funny, he didn't like that Gretchen had the Step Family sign her book. He wouldn't go meet them because they were mean to Cinderella. His mother made a brief appearance, but then she left to go find him his camera. By now, a few more people had shown up and he let a couple families go ahead of him while he waiting to get his camera. I honestly do not know if his mother came back in time or not. I hope so!

About 5 minutes before the Princess and The Frog came out, the Disney Photo Pass employee showed up. He was fun to talk to. He looked at the size of my lens and got in really close to see what zoom it was. "OOOOOO!!!!" He thought I had a 70-300 on there and was going to tell me it wasn't wide enough, so when he saw the 24-70/2.8 I had rented (an almost $2K lens) he was impressed. I quickly got it out there that I rented it! He said I would be very happy with my photos and his probably wouldn't be as good. We talked about Nikons and upgrades and dream cameras. He also warned me that they had some funky magenta lighting going on. Boy was he right! He was also right about me loving all my photos from the whole week. That lens was dreamy!!

Here are a couple shots he took of the kids... they are able to add characters into the photos after taking them.

Gretchen and Prince Naveen looking to be turned human again by a princess's kiss....
This shot was much trickier. Carl wouldn't sit still very well at all, but here he is hoping to turn Tiana back into a human, too! You can just feel the enthusiasm, can't you??!
This was worth being first in line... as Tiana & Naveen approached, Gretchen and Carl were right there to run up and greet them! The other little girl in her Tiana costume was there celebrating her 5th birthday. She was beside herself with glee at seeing the Princess! We learned from her mother that Tiana and Naveen were only signing on Saturday from 10:00 to 10:45. So glad we got there when we did! Can you imagine being turned away from the line after making a special day for it?
Here is my camera talking buddy, Michael at work. the Photo Pass photographers are at most of the meet and greet stations. They take pictures of your child's visit and then put them onto a card for you right there. You are issued a credit card that holds all these photos and then you can buy prints or the whole disc later on. Since you saw the shots with the frogs in them, you know we bought the disc. We knew we would be buying it, that's why we stopped often to have our photos taken by Photo Pass people all over the park. It is a really nice way for the photographer in the family to get to be in some magical photos, too. Plus, they will take your camera from you and take pictures for you using that if you wish. They don't care if you are buying their photos, they are simply there to take vacation photos for people. I can see it being an awesome way for someone not lugging a huge camera and (rented) lens around to have lots of nice pictures from their trip.
Here is Carl reciting his favorite lines form the movie - his Louis the alligator quote. Tiana and Naveen laughed right out loud when he finished! He also asked them if they serve cheeseburgers in their restaurant. If you are not familiar with the story, it takes place in New Orleans and surrounding bayous. Tiana longs to open her dream restaurant. She is then mistakenly turned into a frog along with Prince Naveen. They must figure out how to become human again. They fall in love. They get married as frogs. They get back to human (because once they get married, she is now a princess... and so when she kisses him - being a princess - she can turn him human.) Then they live happily ever after once they have opened her dream restaurant.

Anyway, Carl wanted to be sure they serve cheeseburgers... which they do. Phew! This is a fairly recent movie. I'm sure Disney marketers are planning to open a restaurant on site called Tiana's. If not, they oughta!
And people were right, this interaction was so much fun. They really engaged the kids and even between themselves had great chemistry.
Boy, Carl hugged a lot of princesses this week!
We didn't get to meet any other princes... so this hug was very special!
After all that magic, we headed to the roller coaster for Lew and Gretchen to ride twice. The line was so short, they actually got to go 3 times in a row! This put their Big Thunder Mountain Railroad roller coaster count for the week at 9! Nine times! Gretchen would have gone 90 times if we could have!
They are right in the middle of this next shot...
Once they were done, we headed back to Mickey's PhilharMagic for one last viewing. We ended up with 2 empty rows in front of us and it made for the best 3D view of the week! We saw that 4 times during our stay. Once each of the 4 days we spent in Magic Kingdom. the repetition was wonderful for the kids. They knew their favorite parts were coming up and loved seeing it all again! You can actually search "philharmagic" on You Tube and find videos of it that are fairly decent. People put the 3D glasses on their video camera and it makes it kind of neat. Obviously, not like being there, but you get the idea. Here's the curtain while we were waiting for the show to begin...
Grabbed our final Disney pretzel....
... on our way to Toon Town. All 4 of us rode the little roller coaster called Goofy's Barnstormer. We had been on 3 times earlier in the week. Carl asked to go again, but Gretchen wanted to see Minnie Mouse's house one last time. So, we briefly split up - meeting in the gift store for some quality shopping time when we finished our individual fun.

Here is Gretchen playing with Potato head parts. I know it's blurry, but it shows you how big the display of parts is there. You buy a cardboard box for $20 and fill it with as many pieces as you can. The only catch is you have to be able to close the lid. I think I did a good job engineering us a tons of accessories for our potato heads at home!
We hopped onto the Disney Railroad to ride back to the front of the park. Of course, we stopped and bought some goodies for Miss Sweet Tooth. She picked a Christmas tree cookie. They were very good!
But, these smore squares were insanely good! We only bought one. We dropped the ball there!
As we headed out of the park, Lew eavesdropped on 2 workers discussing why anyone would choose to live in Buffalo NY and he couldn't resist jumping in and defending his Queen City!
Waiting for the ferry to return us to the parknig lot. Carl, how do you feel about leaving Disney World?
Right from there... we headed for the highway and headed back home!!!!! We survived, even thoroughly enjoyed a week long vacation in Disney World with twin 4 year olds!!!!



This final photo of Carl and his Mickey Mouse was taken in the car. I simply turned around, probably traveling 80 mph and captured it. It won a ribbon at one of my recent photo competitions! "A Boy and his Mouse".

Tuesday, February 8, 2011

Valentine's sweater... take 3

I have ripped this out twice now. Here's what it looked like the other night before I unravelled the whole thing...
See, I bought 3 skeins of this yarn a few years ago with the intention of making Gretchen a sweater. Well, here I am, just now getting to it. Now, it needs to be bigger and even though I have tried (twice) to make it work, 3 skeins isn't enough yarn. The craft stores don't carry it anymore, so I found some on ebay. I may still get this going for Valentine's day 2011. I am using a sweater she has that fits nicely as a guide now and not simply using her measurements as I had been doing.
You just might see her in something like this in the near future. Or, perhaps the not so near future. And, by the way... this is the first sweater I have ever made with variegated yarn. I don't like it. I don't like how the sleeves won't match the body. I do, however, love that this is wool. Acrylic just isn't the same. This is a nice soft wool! Geranium is the name of the color.

Monday, February 7, 2011

Disney Day 7, Friday 11/12

If you have read my reports of the previous 6 days in Orlando, you already know the twins were awake at 5:30am.

Today the kids wore their Prince Charming and Cinderella outfits again as we headed to the Magic Kingdom for our final day of magic. We had several characters yet to meet. Cinderella's Step Family were definitely on the list. We saw them during the week, but the line was always closed. We did have that walking comment from the Step Mother to Gretchen "Well, helllllooooo, Cinderella" one day as the 3 characters left their meeting spot to go back inside. Gretchen had been a bit leery of them because she was afraid they would be mean to her, but curiosity was getting the best of her and she did want the chance to confront them in person about being mean to someone we saw earlier in the week. We saw the Step Mother pull a pen from someone with a broad swooping motion and it looked a little rough. I asked a few other mothers who had seen them if they were playful or more like bullies. I was assured they were fun and harmless. The child we saw the pen incident happen to was quite a bit older than Gretchen & Carl. My guess is they tailor their antics to the audience. So, we needed to be dressed like a Prince and Cinderella for that meeting. You understand that, right? Lew was OK with it.

Back to characters to meet today... Snow White was another important one. We wanted those photos to be really special too because Snow White was one of Gretchen's very favorite princesses. I say "one of" because it is hard for a princess herself to narrow down her best friends. Plus, at the end of this day's report, you will see another princess ranks high as well. So, the princess dress and Prince Charming shirt would be perfect for this meeting, too. We had also figured out by this point in the week that she could wear her Cinderella dress and not only be comfortable, but be fine getting around rides and other attractions.

We arrived at the park early enough to get our usual Pluto 11-15 awesome parking spot, but the monorail was not working so everyone had to take the ferry to Magic Kingdom. This meant a lot more people were waiting for the ferry. We did not arrive in the park until close to 10:00.

The first stop I made was in City Hall to inquire about the characters we wanted to meet still. the kids still had pages in their autograph books and they really loved meeting all the characters, so this was the most important thing on our agenda for the day. I asked the girl behind the counter about Snow White, Stitch, Tiana, Jessie and the Step Family. She wrote down the times and locations for 4 of them. Stitch didn't have a place, he was just wandering around in the Tomorrowland area. You had to find him if you could, but you couldn't be guaranteed to meet him. Kind of a bummer we cancelled the breakfast with him yesterday, but not the end of the world, either.

First on the list was Snow White. We had to hightail it across the Main Street Square to find her tucked away right inside the gate. People were entering the park and didn't even realize they were passing her gazebo. We really lucked out because we were the last kids they let in her line! Gretchen had been saving the front page of her autograph book just for Snow White to sign. It would have been horrible if we had missed her!! Even though she was going to be leaving after we were done, she didn't rush talking to Gretchen & Carl at all. She even let me take more pictures when it looked like they were trying to head out. I needed a horizontal cropped shot to use for the November calendar and I knew the outfits and Christmas decorations behind Snow White would make a great one.
Our next stop was near the carousel to find the Step Family. Well, their line was closed, but their worker told us they would be returning at 11:00. This gave us time to cruise through Tomorrowland and look for a chance encounter with Stitch. No luck. But, we headed back at 10:45 to wait for the Step Family. We were first in line. A mother and daughter arrived shortly after us and we got to chat with them. They were long time Disney comers and told me that the Step Family had only started meeting and signing autographs the year before. So, they were still pretty popular with guests. Then, another woman showed up and insisted that we were in the Peter Pan line. She was positive we were waiting for Peter Pan and she even forced us to move a lot more forward to wait right at the rope rather than letting us stand in the shaded area we had been chatting in. I bit my tongue something fierce and did not perform an "I told you so" song and dance as the Step Family returned to the spot at 11:00! The step sisters immediately began fighting over the handsome Prince!! Gretchen approached the Step Mother and informed her, "I have not been mean to you. You should not be mean to me." That was totally uncoached. I never even said anything similar to her. Well, the Step Mother looked her right in the the eye and replied, "Do you say that to everyone you meet for the first time?" Which I thought was a well placed response. Certainly nothing that would offend a (then still) 4 year old, but it did keep with her character in tone. And honestly, it might be a good thing to say to every person you are meeting for the first time. I got some great photos and then, just as our turn was almost over, one Sister said to Carl, "I want you to buy me a big diamond ring." Carl didn't skip a beat. He pointed to the other Sister and replied to the first one, "I will buy her one!" Of course, the first sister was upset and the second sister was gloating. It was a riot!! And Carl made his exit. After these 2 fun character meetings, we were ready for some rides. We headed over to It's A Small World. It was actually one of the longest waiting lines we encountered all week. 10 minutes. I had never been to Disney before, so I didn't have any childhood memories of the ride like so many other have. I have to say, I was prepared for cheesy and annoying music, but I loved it! OK, maybe not as much as Carl's therapist's daughter did. They went when the little girl was 3 and they had to ride it 14 times in a row! They went in early December and there was no line at all. 14 times back in line. I might have liked to ride it a second time, but not another dozen. I think the kids liked it as much as I did. They were pretty into the whole thing and checking out each scene. Lew didn't seem as enthused. He did later report that he enjoyed watching the wiring for the underwater pumps and smelling the old ozone mechanical electronic smell. I guess to a science geek, that is considered magical.

From there, we went back to see Mickey's PhilHarmagic again.... our 3rd time this week! We all have loved this movie! Carl calls it the "Donald is flying at you" movie. Lew was even quoted as saying, "It's a good show." Not only are you hearing your favorite Disney songs, but you have the 3D effects mixed in with smells and feeling, too! In one scene, you could smell baked goods. In another one, you get blasted with whooshes of air from popping champagne bottles and later you get wet from flying buckets of water. You are not hit by buckets, just splashes. We met a couple while waiting to go in and the wife had a "300th visit" button on. Lew asked her, "really? 300?" She said they were Florida residents and had been season ticket holders for 27 years. They come a lot and she said they always see PhilharMagic because it is the husband's favorite. Pretty cool! Then, after the movie, we rode the carousel again. Always fun!
Next we were off to Frontierland.... let me stop here. All these "lands" are different areas in the park. At first, we were worried about the time it would take to go between them, but as the week went on and we got more comfortable with the layout of everything, we learned it wasn't terrible. Especially with the kids in a stroller and limited crowds. We could walk pretty fast throughout the park.

So, we headed to Frontierland for a meet and greet with Jessie and Woody. The line was pretty long which gave us plenty of time for Lew to go pick up 4 Fastpasses for Big Thunder Mountain Railroad roller coaster and then bop over to buy a pretzel for a snack while we snaked along in the queue. Big, soft pretzels are his favorite anyway, but they really made good snacks of many occasions during this vacation. Carl didn't eat any of this one though (foreshadowing). Being in line for a good amount of time gave me the time I needed to completely change the kids' outfits from Prince Charming and Cinderella to their 2010 Halloween costumes... Jessie and Woody. A lady in line ahead of us gasped and asked where did I get the Jessie suit. When I told her I made it, she said, "I thought so. It's a really good one." (beaming) Lew was not terribly keen on this costume change. But now, he likes the photos. Gee, that's a typical husband for you, huh? At one point in line, the Disney worker informed us that Jessie and Woody had to go inside for 5 minutes to check on Bullseye. Gretchen bought that completely! Sure enough, less than 5 minutes later, they reappeared to resume signings. By the time we got to the front of the line, Carl was getting hungry for lunch (note the previous foreshadowing). He was kind of fussy and even tried crying even though he'd been excited to meet Woody & Jessie all week. We managed to get a few cute pictures. Gretchen was really into it - and Jessie and Woody played with her a lot!
They wondered where her boots were....
I didn't photograph today's lunch, but we ate at Pecos Bill's Cafe. Carl had a cheeseburger, Lew had a pulled pork barbecue sandwich and fries, I had a cheeseburger and apples and Miss Gretchen had yogurt. Moods improved greatly after this!!

Another costume change... this time, just back to play clothes. Well, for Carl, that simply meant removing his Woody vest. For Gretchen, I had shorts and a tee shirt so she wouldn't have to put her dress back on if she didn't want to. We split up at this point with Lew & Gretchen going to the roller coaster to use their Fastpasses for 2 rides in a row. Carl & I headed over to Tom Sawyer's Island by raft. Tom Sawyer's Island is a playground on the entire island. A lot of stairs, paths and walkways and places for your kid to duck out of sight. Did I mention all the stairs? When they finished their roller coaster fun, Lew & Gretchen took the raft over to meet us. You can see Lew - the tall, pensive guy in the middle with the purple shirt. Gretchen is on his left with her arms on the side of the raft. By then, Carl and I had a little knowledge of the island. The kids liked the rickety bridge a lot. We did find an old mining town with only one entrance which allowed us to stand and talk while they played and we did not have to chase them up and down all the steps.
We saw a little of the afternoon parade on our way from Tom Sawyer's Island over to Adventureland. We had stopped to see parades on a couple other occasions this vacation, but the kids were not interested in them at all. Even today, we really only stayed to watch because you couldn't cross the street due to the parade. I thought Gretchen would be more into it because of the princesses and princes, but not really. I was happy to get to see some of this one. I liked seeing the princesses and princes! Check this out, Prince Eric (Ariel's prince charming from The Little Mermaid) seems to have chosen me out of the crowd!
The Step Family shot turned out to be full of personalities!
My mother would have loved watching Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum dancing their way up the street. They were pretty funny!Once the parade ended, we crossed over and worked our way to Adventureland to ride Aladdin's Magic Carpets. This was a pretty Dumbo-esque ride. All four of us fit in one magic carpet. The front seat had control of raising and lowering the carpet while the back seat had control of the tilt of the carpet. Just like Dumbo, it is a 90 second ride. The kids loved it! You circle around and there is a huge camel statue who randomly spits like a thin fountain. Gretchen was so happy the camel didn't spit on us!

Every report I read of Disney stressed the importance of eating Dole Whip when you were there. So, we did. Orange pineapple swirl. OK, I will confess... having lived in Buffalo where Anderson's served dole whip, I found the Disney version nothing new and special. Must be other people had never had Dole Whip at all. I do enjoy orange pineapple ice cream a lot, so it tasted good, but it surely wasn't something to fret over finding.
By now, our day was over. We worked our way back to Main Street passing Tiana's signing place, but she was done for the day. We knew this meant we were going home without her signature or any photos. I was pretty disappointed because all the reports I had read told how she and Prince Naveen were 2 of the best characters for interacting with the kids. The stuffed characters don't talk, so only the face characters could hold conversations with 4 year olds. And since many were in our lunch in the castle, they were kind of rushed. Oh well, not much I could do about it. We surely had plenty of wonderful memories of the trip and missing one set of characters would be forgotten as they told their stories of roller coasters and chicken nuggets. But, when Gretchen asked when we were going to meet Tiana and learned we weren't, she cried. She had one page left in her autograph book which was bad enough, but honestly, 'The Princess and the Frog' was at that time, their favorite princess movie. Carl was visibly upset he couldn't meet her, too. Brainstorming between the parents began.

We were still on our way out of the park for the night. That wasn't changing. We stopped in the confectionery shop on Main Street for one last cookie and cupcake to bring home to the condo for dessert if the kids stayed awake that long. Another thing we didn't get to do was see any evening fireworks. We pushed through every day and returned to the condo for dinner rather than going home for a mid-day nap and returning for fireworks. But, they didn't care. I told you they weren't at all interested in parades, who knows if they would have been interested in fireworks.

As we walked out of the park, Lew and I discussed changing our Saturday plan from 'a little shopping at Downtown Disney and then hitting the road' to 'Magic Kingdom to see Tiana and Naveen and then hitting the road.' Still in the vague brainstorming phase.

We got back to the condo and headed over for a swim. We met two girls from Canada in the hot tub. Gretchen talked their ears off! They were so sweet and listened to all her princess stories. They were going to Universal in Orlando and at one point, one turned to the other and said, "She is making this sound like so much fun. Maybe we should be doing Disney instead."

Dinner for the kids was hot dogs, fruit and rolls. During dinner, Carl said, "I am just feeling soooo tired!" At bedtime, when I asked Carl what his favorite ride was, he thought and said, "Dumbo." Gretchen said hers was the magic carpets "and the camel didn't spit on us!" They were in bed by 8:00 pm!

Look how grown up Carl looks waiting for dinner, watching TV laying on his bed.
They thought it was funny (well, so did I) that their "bowling monkey" pajamas mathced the sheets perfectly! They don't call them Sock Monkeys, just Bowling Monkeys. This was in the closet in the kids' room. Gretchen was so happy that her dolls had their own crib all week!
Once they were in bed, Lew and I decided this trip was for them and we were definitely going to Magic Kingdom in the morning. Oh OK, I wanted to meet Tiana and Naveen as much as they did! We mostly packed the car and cleaned the condo so that in the morning we could get an early start. We knew the kids would wake us at 5:30 anyway.


There will be one more report still to come from me... our final day at Disney and the trip home.

Happy Birthdays Caroline and Leann!


Over the weekend I missed 2 birthday messages. Oops! See, Carl & Gretchen have discovered http://www.pbskids.org/ and all they want to do now is play computer games. Carl has become really good with the mouse in the past week. His OT will be proud! Small motor is not his "thing", ya know? Gretchen has been rocking the mouse for months now. But, this means I don't get much computer time anymore between them and Lew and his auction sites. It is cute to hearing Carl say, as he gives up the chair willingly to Gretchen, "OK, you have 3 minutes and then it is my turn again."


Happy 10th Birthday to Caroline on Feb 5th!
Feb 2001
Dec 2007. One of my favorite photos! A lot of love and fun here!
April 2009


And Happy 15th Birthday to Leann on Feb 6th!

July 2002 reunion with Stacey
Nov 2003, Candy making with Colin
Dec 2009 with Natalie

Sunday, February 6, 2011

riding bikes!

A little break before the super bowl stuff started. Carl is really improving. He still wants to pedal backwards... which, you know, is hitting the brake. Before we went out, he said he didn't want to ride, "My bike has brakes." So, we only brought Gretchen's with us to the court. Then, she got off to play with the sweet calico cat who always plays with us over there and Carl hopped on her bike and took off. That's when he decided he needed his own bike, too. So, he and I ran home to get his helmet and bike, too.
Liz - Caroline's favorite jacket is one of our favs now, too! The sleeves are a touch long still so I think it will fit for a good long time!

Wednesday, February 2, 2011

we disagree with Phil

Punxsutawney Phil did not see his shadow today, making the prediction of an early spring. You know that March 20th is 6 weeks after February 2nd no matter what. So, potato - potahtoh. 6 more weeks of winter - 6 weeks until spring.

Anyway... in keeping with the spirit of the day, the twins would like to formally disagree with the groundhog. We did in fact see our shadows today. So, our forecast... 6 more weeks of winter.

This is good when you consider that yesterday Gretchen came home from school and told me she hoped the groundhog would see his shadow because she wanted 6 more months of winter so it would stay cold out. Considering that request, 6 more weeks should sound like a good deal!

But, if winter was all as nice as today.... we'd take 6 more months of it!